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Harry Browne's Campaign Journal Part Thirty
Tuesday, August 29, 2000 -- New York
Pamela and I are up at 5:30 to catch a plane to
New York. This is the first trip in several weeks
on which Pamela has accompanied me, and it is a
lot more pleasant for me.
To
save several hundred dollars on the air fare,
we fly into Islip Airport, way out on Long Island.
There we meet Steve Willis, who has flown in from
Baltimore. A car and driver also are there to take
us to Manhattan. The trip takes about 90 minutes.
On the way I have a 30-minute phone interview with
Mike Scinto at WDAO in Dayton, Ohio. My cell-phone
connection is broken twice as the car goes through
tunnels. He asks a lot of good questions, but
takes no particular stand on any of the issues.
When we get to Manhattan, we realize that a
clerical error has caused us to be booked at the
wrong hotel in the wrong part of the city. We are
supposed to stay at the Excelsior, a recently
remodeled hotel on West 81st Street that is
surprisingly inexpensive for such a nice hotel.
Instead, we're at Broadway and 27th, in a hotel
that costs as much but is far from as nice. In
fact, the air conditioning in our room doesn't
even work, and it's a very muggy day. So we
quickly make arrangements to move to the other
hotel.
But first I have four more interviews to do. One
is 30 minutes with Paul Harral, Jack Z. Smith, and
J.R. Jill Labbe of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
They are very friendly, and one of them is quite
happy with my intention as President to disarm the
Capitol guards until the Congressmen restore to
all Americans the unconditional right to defend
themselves. As usual, however, there's no way to
know what will come as a result of the interview.
(As it turns out, J.R. Labbe writes a wonderful
article, published on August 31, presenting our
ideas accurately and saying, ". . . his voice is
one that needs to be heard. It would be a loss to
the American people not to see and hear him during
the presidential debates. Line 'em all up -- Bush,
Gore, Nader, Buchanan and Browne -- and let the
voters hear what they have to say." The article is
reprinted the next day in San Diego's North County
Times as an editorial, and apparently also in the
Panama City [Florida] News Herald.)
Next is a 20-minute phone conversation with
Timothy Pajak of HRWire, a magazine and Internet
site (www.HRWire.com). The publication is for
Human Resources officers in corporations and
others interested in health care and retirement
plans. He says he likes that I said on Politically
Incorrect last week that we shouldn't look for
someone to "lead" us, but instead America should
have 250 million leaders -- each responsible for
his own life. He seems very friendly toward
libertarian ideas.
I then have a 30-minute interview with Ralph
Bristol at WSPA in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
Before I go on the air, his producer says he
happened to be surfing his TV set in July when he
came across my acceptance speech at the LP
convention. He became engrossed and decided he was
pretty much a libertarian. A lot of my interview
with Bristol concerns foreign policy and a missile
defense. He seems to be quite in sync with a
non-interventionist foreign policy. In the last
minute of the show, he brings up the Drug War. I
say we should schedule another interview and give
that subject the time it deserves. He agrees.
The final interview is supposed to be 30 minutes
with D.L. Stewart at WHIO in Dayton, Ohio.
However, they have a problem with their phones,
and we're about 15 minutes late getting started.
He begins by saying, "The Democrats want to take
our money and give it away; the Republicans want
to take our money and keep it. What do
Libertarians want?" I tell him that Libertarians
want to stop the politicians from taking our money
in the first place. He says, "What an
extraordinary thought!"
Because of the late start, I stay for an extra 10
minutes or so. We get a number of calls -- almost
all from supportive people. One man says he was a
Democrat for many years, but he wasn't really
for the Democrats, he was simply against the
Republicans -- afraid of the Religious Right. But
now he has decided to be for freedom and the
Libertarians.
After the final interview, we check out of the
hotel and move uptown.
Wednesday, August 30, 2000 -- New York
A lot going on today. We have to get up at 5:30
(do some people really do this willingly?), as we
have to drive all the way back out to Long Island
for a short TV interview. (Don't ask why we didn't
do the interview yesterday when we were on Long
Island; that's just the way things work out
sometimes.)
On the way to Long Island, I have three brief
radio interviews on my cell phone. The first is
with Jim Thompson a newscaster at WGCH in
Greenwich, Connecticut. The interview is only
about 5 minutes long, but it goes very well --
covering all the basics.
Then it's Jim Turner at WDBO in Orlando. Before I
go on, Kirk Healy, the producer, says, "We're all
in your corner. You're our man." And he suggests
that I invite Jim Turner to join the LP during the
interview. I do so, but Jim doesn't respond.
However, he does plug next week's appearance in
Orlando.
Then it's "Carmen & Chris in the Morning" on
WSSR-FM in Tampa. Carmen says she's a registered
Libertarian and she's on my side all the way. We
talk mostly about Social Security and she responds
to most of my statements like a member of the Amen
Corner.
We
arrive at the News 12 station in Woodbury. This
is a large cable channel covering Long Island. My
interview is live at 8:15, and it's only 5 minutes
long. But it will be replayed throughout the day.
The woman who interviews me asks a question that
leads me to talk about repealing the income tax.
Without hearing a word I said, she then says, "I
understand you also want to repeal the income
tax." So much for an involved conversation.
Walking down the hall after the interview, I pass
a man who says, "I'm voting for you."
On the way back to Manhattan, I have a phone
interview with Brian Weiss of George magazine's
website (www.georgemag.com). He's a young man who
sounds almost like a Libertarian, as he
anticipates my answers to many of his questions.
He's either libertarian-leaning or a very
perceptive reporter. Either way he ought to have a
promising future.
Another cell phone interview is 5-7 minutes with
the Kevin & Bean Show on KROQ-FM in Burbank,
California. They have a morning rock & roll show
for young people, which is the kind of show I
always enjoy being on. Both hosts are very
sympathetic to the ideas I express, and I have the
opportunity to say everything I want.
Then we're at the Fox News Channel for a 5-minute
interview with Linda Vester. She asks a couple of
questions, and then I barrel forward and take over
the conversation -- covering everything I want to
get into the interview. She seems quite willing to
let me do so. On the way out, one of the engineers
tells me she'll be voting for me.
Later in the day we go to WABC for a radio hour
with Sean Hannity of Hannity & Colmes. He is a
staunch Republican, but everytime I talk with him
he seems to be more critical of the Republicans
than before. He still will vote for George W.
Bush, however. Today I keep repeating that voting
Republican means you're giving up -- that you
don't ever expect to be free -- because it's
obvious that Republicans will never allow you to
be free to live your life as you want.
In the second half of the hour, as I'm making this
point, we suddenly lurch off into a discussion of
the military and of foreign interventions -- a
discussion that lasts about 20 minutes. This in
fact seems to be the only area where Sean actually
expects George Bush to do something Sean wants --
use the military to keep the whole world in line.
I try to point out that none of the previous
foreign adventures have delivered on their
promised benefits, but I don't get anywhere with
him. I hope I scored more points with the
listeners.
In the evening I'm on for 45 minutes with Brent
Johnson of The American Sovereign show, an
Internet broadcast. He is very good to me --
beginning by saying, "No other candidate is so
well spoken." He seems especially happy with my
statement to disarm all the guards protecting the
Congressmen. The callers are all positive.
The final event of the day is one segment on the
Hannity & Colmes TV show on the Fox News Channel.
Both Sean and Alan have been very good to me --
with a standing offer to be on the show whenever
I'm in New York. Usually Sean uses his time to
challenge me on any of my views that might be
considered anti-conservative, and then Alan
challenges me on my anti-liberal views. Tonight
it's different. Sean asks me to elaborate on the
views he agrees with, and then Alan asks me to
elaborate on the views he agrees with.
At the end of the segment, all three cameramen
applaud. Last time I was there, each of them came
up to me afterward to say he was voting for me.
The Floor Manager of the show (who also works on
the O'Reilly Factor) is Jenna Sowards, a staunch
libertarian and supporter.
Thursday, August 31, 2000 -- New York
My first interview isn't until 10am, so I get a
good night's sleep. I talk with Jeff Kats, an
avowed Libertarian on KXNT in Las Vegas. He pushes
the Libertarian message throughout our 15-minute
conversation, which covers two segments.
Since he's a Libertarian and counting on me to
carry the flag, I feel a little embarrassed in the
first segment because my words don't seem to flow
easily. But everything begins to fall in place in
the second segment, and I become very
passionate -- saying that you'll never get smaller
government in your lifetime if you don't start
voting Libertarian.
Then I go down to the hotel lobby for a one-hour
interview with Joseph Guinto of Investors Business
Daily, the Wall Street Journal's chief competitor.
He has taken a train from his Washington office to
New York to interview me. He is writing a series
of articles, one on each of the principal third
parties. We cover the issues, as well as why
someone should vote Libertarian, our campaign
strategy, and just about everything else under the
sun. Of course I have no idea what will show up in
his article.
Some time back, Steve and Jennifer Willis heard
Catherine Crier make a remark against the Drug War
on her Court TV program. They wrote to her,
enclosing a press kit and both the video and book
of The Great Libertarian Offer. This eventually
brought about a scheduled interview. However, the
first date was canceled when it became impossible
to set up a remote interview.
Today we have a rescheduled interview. So Pamela,
Steve, and I head to Court TV. I used to watch her
show when she was on the Fox News Channel, and I
have always admired her interviewing skill. She
never betrayed her own views on any significant
matter, so I don't know what to expect when I
enter the studio. To my surprise, she makes it
clear before the interview begins that she thinks
highly of libertarian ideas. She says she hopes I
get into the debates because otherwise this year's
race is very boring.
The 10-minute interview itself goes beautifully.
In the first minute, I say, "I want to set you
free to live your life as you want to live it --
not as Al Gore or George Bush thinks is best for
you, or best for the Fatherland. After all, you're
the one who earns the money, you're the one who
gets up every day and goes to work. Why should
they be taking your money and deciding how much of
it they're going to let you keep for yourself? Why
don't you decide how much of it you're going to
give to them?"
To this, she says enthusiastically, "Yes! Yes!"
We cover repealing the income tax, getting the
government out of Social Security, and ending the
Drug War. She adds her own comments to explain why
each of these steps would be beneficial. At the
end she insists that I come back for a longer
interview. Happily, we've found a new friend.
On the way back to the hotel, I have an interview
on my cell phone with Charles Pappas, who is
writing articles on me for Salon and
GreenMagazine, both Internet publications. He is a
financial reporter for each of them -- and he's
interested in how my proposals would affect
saving, investing, and retirement. He asks what I
would do about Alan Greenspan. I say I'd try to
help find him a new job, because there's no place
in the Constitution for the Federal Reserve
System -- and no reason to think politicians know
what the proper interest rate should be.
A technician comes to the hotel to fix my ailing
laptop computer. Afterward it seems to work as it
should.
The last interview is a 10-minute taping with
Randy Ford of the Tennessee Radio Network. He
provides news features for 80 stations in
Tennessee. He will arrange my comments into
soundbites for news items that will be played
throughout the day tomorrow. We cover the basics,
and he asks whether there's anything we've missed.
I say we covered everything, but Pamela calls "The
website" from across the room -- and I add that.
We are scheduled to fly home tomorrow
keeping this evening available for any last-minute
interviews that might arise. But since nothing has
come up, Steve obtains flights for us tonight and
we make a hurried dash to the Long Island airport
and catch a plane home -- giving us an extra night
in Nashville.
Friday, September 1, 2000 -- Nashville
Just one interview today. It is with reporter Paul
Rasmussen at WOKV in Jacksonville, Florida. We
tape some soundbites he can use during newscasts
next week, calling attention to my appearance
there next week.
Once again my laptop computer won't start. The
computer is only about nine months old, but it has
given me a world of trouble. I won't mention the
brand because the company has tried to treat me
well, and people I know have found computers from
this company to be quite reliable. I talk again
with the computer company, and we agree that it
will make one final attempt to get the computer
working properly and reliably.
Today we receive an email from Peter Meister of
Elk Grove Village, Illinois. He wrote a letter to
C-SPAN saying: "You are the most open-minded
network on TV, and as a Libertarian, I greatly
appreciate your coverage of Libertarian events and
candidates. Last week I saw you broadcast campaign
speeches by Ralph Nader and John Hagelin. I would
like to make you aware of Harry Browne's campaign
schedule and to ask you to cover some of his
upcoming events. Additional scheduling can be
found at his website. Thanks again. You are a
great service to democracy, and we really need
you."
He says, "This e-mail led to me getting a call
from C-SPAN. Anita Siegfried called to ask me if I
knew who to contact to get updated information on
Harry's schedule, as she is assigned to follow his
campaign. I called her and gave her [Press
Secretary] Jim Babka's phone number from the web
page. I also left Jim a voice mail message with
Anita's phone number."
It is amazing what Libertarian volunteers acting
on their own initiative can achieve.
Today Jack Dean provided the website statistics
for August. We had 198,339 different visitors
during the month, compared with 108,861 in July --
with 328,921 total visits, against 191,237 in
July. These are very impressive figures, and
undoubtedly in the same league with the Democratic
and Republican candidates. Geoff Braun has done a
wonderful job with our website.
Saturday, September 2, 2000 -- Nashville
Just one interview today. It is with Larry Klayman
of Judicial Watch, the organization that initiates
court cases to try to keep the federal government
in line. Larry has his own weekly radio show.
Judicial Watch is sponsoring a presidential debate
on October 20. Six candidates have been invited.
Al Gore, Pat Buchanan, Howard Phillips, and I have
already accepted. George Bush and Ralph Nader have
not responded. C-SPAN plans to cover the debate,
and other networks probably also will cover it if
George Bush agrees to attend.
Larry starts the interview by referring to the
debate. The ostensible topic will be rooting out
corruption in government. I say that corruption is
a natural byproduct of size and power. The problem
isn't the abuse of power; it is the power to
abuse. Our task isn't to bring about "clean
government" or "good government," but to reduce
government to the absolute minimum possible. So
long as the politicians have the power to reward
their friends and punish their enemies, corruption
is inevitable. (P.J. O'Rourke once said that when
the legislature makes the rules for buying and
selling, the first things to be bought and sold
will be the legislators.)
Tomorrow Pamela and I will head for Florida for a
week of events there.
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